Comments on: Are New Atlanta genuine about CFML?

By: Vince Bonfanti

Vince Bonfanti — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:58:15 +0000

Hi Neil,

I made a poor choice of words on my blog posting. For what it’s worth, I’ve updated that blog entry to use more neutral language.

Regards,

Vince Bonfanti

By: Neil

Neil — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:15:40 +0000

@Jim Having spoken to Mark Drew quite a lot this week, I can 100% tell you that Marks resignation from the OpenBD committee was to do with a lack of time and nothing more sinister than that. Check out Marks blog for the details.

By: Neil

Neil — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:45:26 +0000

OK, once more for clarification I’ve made an edit to the original post.

By: Nitai Aventaggiato

Nitai Aventaggiato — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:28:18 +0000

@ Jim
This is the last comment I will make publicly on this blog, but the project is not going downhill at all. Please read Sean’s blog post again. The project is going on. Sean just could not deal with the way Alan handled answered to some points of his. This is his personal opinion and they had differences.

That said, we will come forward with some announcements and will show that we are all behind this project and in it for the CFML community.

By: That Was Quick. OpenBD Out. Railo In. » thecrumb.com

That Was Quick. OpenBD Out. Railo In. » thecrumb.com — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:32:17 +0000

[...] of a few days it seems the Open Blue Dragon project has imploded. First Neil Middleton’s post about a comment Vince Bonfanti made. Then Sean Corfield blogged a related post and a day later announces his resignation from the [...]

By: Jim Priest

Jim Priest — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:19:00 +0000

Oops - I forgot - Matt left the Adobe Experts - NOT OpenBD.

By: Jim Priest

Jim Priest — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:11:25 +0000

Ah - seems like there is more going on here… from Sean’s blog:
http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog.entry/entry/Farewell_Open_B lueDragaon

I’m guessing the steering committee mailing list is private so we’re only getting one side of the story but it’s unfortunate to see this project go downhill so quickly. Mark Drew, Matt Woodward and now Sean have all left in the last week or so…

By: Jim Priest

Jim Priest — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:38:36 +0000

@Nitai - Exactly. Every shop in the world can’t run ColdFusion. That’s completely unrealistic. Some people ARE migrating away from CF. If you don’t believe that then you’ve had too much Adobe Kool Aid. Why should we fault New Atlanta for helping businesses that want to go one way or the other??

By: Nitai Aventaggiato

Nitai Aventaggiato — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:54:08 +0000

From what I know is that New Atlanta offers businesses that have abandoned CFML and converted to .NET a way to still have their CFML pages running but with BD.NET. So, those businesses have already gone away from CFML, but with the use of BD.NET they don’t go “all the way” and sometimes come back to the CFML language.

But, I do agree with you that the wording on Vince’s blog post is not good and could be misleading.

Regarding the licensing and OpenBD, would a classpath exception ease the licensing issue for you?

By: Neil

Neil — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:23:46 +0000

@Nitai I am completely 100% behind OpenBD (although Railo has more appeal to me due to the different license), I am referring 100% to New Atlanta itself. It honestly looks like New Atlanta are trying to get people away from CFML with their newly announced consulting.