Comments on: Please Adobe, give us a public ColdFusion bug tracker http://neilmiddleton.com/2008/04/10/please-adobe-give-us-a-public-coldfusion-bug-tracker/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:35:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: dfguy http://neilmiddleton.com/2008/04/10/please-adobe-give-us-a-public-coldfusion-bug-tracker/#comment-81389 dfguy Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:30:20 +0000 http://neilmiddleton.com/?p=211#comment-81389 @jason thanks for commenting. remember that most of us can't make it to cfunited or sotr so announcements like needs to be conveyed to the community through the blogs. someone like ben forta, damon cooper, hell every adobe needs to get the word out to the rest of us. it's sad that we have to attend an event in order to get the answers we're looking for. @jason

thanks for commenting. remember that most of us can’t make it to cfunited or sotr so announcements like needs to be conveyed to the community through the blogs. someone like ben forta, damon cooper, hell every adobe needs to get the word out to the rest of us. it’s sad that we have to attend an event in order to get the answers we’re looking for.

]]> By: Jason Delmore http://neilmiddleton.com/2008/04/10/please-adobe-give-us-a-public-coldfusion-bug-tracker/#comment-81381 Jason Delmore Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:21:57 +0000 http://neilmiddleton.com/?p=211#comment-81381 Completely agree. Which is why we announced that we were working on a public bug tracker at CFUnited and Scotch on the Rocks. :) We just don't want to give you something that is "a pile of cack". ;) Stay tuned. Jason Completely agree. Which is why we announced that we were working on a public bug tracker at CFUnited and Scotch on the Rocks. :) We just don’t want to give you something that is “a pile of cack”. ;)

Stay tuned.

Jason

]]> By: dfguy http://neilmiddleton.com/2008/04/10/please-adobe-give-us-a-public-coldfusion-bug-tracker/#comment-81364 dfguy Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:31:04 +0000 http://neilmiddleton.com/?p=211#comment-81364 So is this happening or are we all just stroking ourselves? So is this happening or are we all just stroking ourselves?

]]> By: Harkirat http://neilmiddleton.com/2008/04/10/please-adobe-give-us-a-public-coldfusion-bug-tracker/#comment-81361 Harkirat Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:48:38 +0000 http://neilmiddleton.com/?p=211#comment-81361 A definite yes to that ! A definite yes to that !

]]> By: Gary F http://neilmiddleton.com/2008/04/10/please-adobe-give-us-a-public-coldfusion-bug-tracker/#comment-80762 Gary F Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:33:01 +0000 http://neilmiddleton.com/?p=211#comment-80762 Something very unexpected happened this week. I logged a bug on the public Adobe bug & wish list page - which usually feels like it goes into a black hole once you click on submit. But within an hour I received an email from one of the Adobe CF developers responding to my bug report. I presume he was part of the new team in India. Well done to them! Interestingly I discovered an undocumented bug fix in 8.01 which I first thought was a new bug in 8.01. Aparently the pagetype="a4" attribute in cfdocument produces fonts that are about 3pt sizes too big in CF7 and CF8.0. But this is fixed in 8.01. As a result our CSS had to be changed because suddenly when 8.01 was installed our cfdocuments were rendered with tiny, unreadable text. Naughty Adobe for not mentioning that anywhere in the release notes. If they had a public bug tracker then perhaps I could have found that out by searching before reporting a bug and spending a whole day trying to find out exactly where the fault was. Something very unexpected happened this week. I logged a bug on the public Adobe bug & wish list page - which usually feels like it goes into a black hole once you click on submit. But within an hour I received an email from one of the Adobe CF developers responding to my bug report. I presume he was part of the new team in India. Well done to them!

Interestingly I discovered an undocumented bug fix in 8.01 which I first thought was a new bug in 8.01. Aparently the pagetype=”a4″ attribute in cfdocument produces fonts that are about 3pt sizes too big in CF7 and CF8.0. But this is fixed in 8.01. As a result our CSS had to be changed because suddenly when 8.01 was installed our cfdocuments were rendered with tiny, unreadable text.

Naughty Adobe for not mentioning that anywhere in the release notes. If they had a public bug tracker then perhaps I could have found that out by searching before reporting a bug and spending a whole day trying to find out exactly where the fault was.

]]> By: Howard Fore http://neilmiddleton.com/2008/04/10/please-adobe-give-us-a-public-coldfusion-bug-tracker/#comment-80712 Howard Fore Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:39:02 +0000 http://neilmiddleton.com/?p=211#comment-80712 They could just open up another section of the already existing bugs.adobe.com site... They could just open up another section of the already existing bugs.adobe.com site…

]]> By: Adam Cameron http://neilmiddleton.com/2008/04/10/please-adobe-give-us-a-public-coldfusion-bug-tracker/#comment-80702 Adam Cameron Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:54:05 +0000 http://neilmiddleton.com/?p=211#comment-80702 Actually I dunno if they're "responsible" or not. But I meant to say "responsive". Grumble. Just reading your sticky: "Please double check your comments before submit". :-| -- Adam Actually I dunno if they’re “responsible” or not. But I meant to say “responsive”.

Grumble. Just reading your sticky:
“Please double check your comments before submit”.

:-|

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Adam

]]> By: Adam Cameron http://neilmiddleton.com/2008/04/10/please-adobe-give-us-a-public-coldfusion-bug-tracker/#comment-80701 Adam Cameron Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:49:42 +0000 http://neilmiddleton.com/?p=211#comment-80701 Agree strongly. I find the bods on the beta programmes very responsible (even if the responses aren't always "yes" ;-), but in between times I really feel like the bug "tracking" process is just a black hole. I feel stupid suggesting to people on the Adobe Forums that they should make sure to log bugs if they come across them, because if they ask "well what happens when I do that?", as my response can only really be "err... dunno actually... but like you should just do it anyway". Not very convincing. On thing I find most useful with client-facing bug trackers is that one can at least save some time when wondering "is this a bug?", as one can go and find out "yes, it is" (if it's already logged, I mean), which reduces the time wasted investigating this sort of thing. -- Adam Agree strongly. I find the bods on the beta programmes very responsible (even if the responses aren’t always “yes” ;-), but in between times I really feel like the bug “tracking” process is just a black hole.

I feel stupid suggesting to people on the Adobe Forums that they should make sure to log bugs if they come across them, because if they ask “well what happens when I do that?”, as my response can only really be “err… dunno actually… but like you should just do it anyway”. Not very convincing.

On thing I find most useful with client-facing bug trackers is that one can at least save some time when wondering “is this a bug?”, as one can go and find out “yes, it is” (if it’s already logged, I mean), which reduces the time wasted investigating this sort of thing.

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Adam

]]> By: Gary F http://neilmiddleton.com/2008/04/10/please-adobe-give-us-a-public-coldfusion-bug-tracker/#comment-80692 Gary F Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:28:10 +0000 http://neilmiddleton.com/?p=211#comment-80692 Why don't we take a leaf out of Jim Priest's book and run a public bug tracker in parallel? - Jim duplicated Adobe's CF IDE survey so the community can get an idea of the results http://www.thecrumb.com/2008/04/09/the-open-cfml-ide-survey/ The CF community can remind each other to report bugs on the community CF bug tracker so we all know what's going on. We could add comments and include workarounds if we find any which would be brilliant if you find yourself banging your head against a wall. After a new CF release or hotfix a volunteer can go through the bugs and click on "fixed". If Adobe realise the public version is well regarded, regularly indexed(!) and bug free(!) then maybe they'd adopt it or improve their own version and make it public. Why don’t we take a leaf out of Jim Priest’s book and run a public bug tracker in parallel? - Jim duplicated Adobe’s CF IDE survey so the community can get an idea of the results http://www.thecrumb.com/2008/04/09/the-open-cfml-ide-survey/

The CF community can remind each other to report bugs on the community CF bug tracker so we all know what’s going on. We could add comments and include workarounds if we find any which would be brilliant if you find yourself banging your head against a wall.

After a new CF release or hotfix a volunteer can go through the bugs and click on “fixed”. If Adobe realise the public version is well regarded, regularly indexed(!) and bug free(!) then maybe they’d adopt it or improve their own version and make it public.

]]> By: Andy Allan http://neilmiddleton.com/2008/04/10/please-adobe-give-us-a-public-coldfusion-bug-tracker/#comment-80682 Andy Allan Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:05:06 +0000 http://neilmiddleton.com/?p=211#comment-80682 I think the vast majority of CF developers out there would love to have the ability to, not just see what's in the bug tracker, but to track what happened to bug(s) they submitted. Currently, they just seem to disappear into a void. Sure, behind the scenes the CF team are doing something with them, but... well, I just never have like the old /go/wish URL. A public bug tracker would be a good move by Adobe for ColdFusion. OpenBD will have one... (stirr stirr) I think the vast majority of CF developers out there would love to have the ability to, not just see what’s in the bug tracker, but to track what happened to bug(s) they submitted.

Currently, they just seem to disappear into a void. Sure, behind the scenes the CF team are doing something with them, but… well, I just never have like the old /go/wish URL.

A public bug tracker would be a good move by Adobe for ColdFusion.

OpenBD will have one… (stirr stirr)

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